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You make some valid points here hun but I would never want to kill Chivalry because there are still some real gentleman here that possess that unique and dying quality.. Seduce the mind and see what a wonderful adventure the body will take you on.. 
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For me, it's all about being polite; not to pickup ladies.
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Ummm, yeah...as much as I would like to agree, I just can't. I'd rather be use chivalry as I was taught to do so by my dad. Now that doesn't mean I can't also be respectful a gentleman and the other things mentioned by others here, of course. But I've always tried to live by a code of honor. Sometimes I've failed in doing so, and I went back on my honor, but I've tried to regain it back, and I'd rather be old fashioned in a sense to protect a woman's honor and be chivalrous. Besides, I have to set a good example for my daughter. Who can you call on to save the day? Why none other than... Agent 
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I have no idea about chivalry but I will be a Gentleman until I die. My grandfather taught me how to be one by example... every day of his life. It had nothing to do with picking up attractive women, it was just how things are done. In all ways, to all people. I have been slapped for opening a door for a woman, and been taken advantage of by several people... but the memory of that dear man means more to me than any problems that may occur because of the way I treat others... with respect.
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Chivalry or decorum? I boil it down to manners, to all people. I see a decline in manners, especially with the internet.. But, I do have hope that manners will prevail to try to maintain a civil society. I like to think if a man is mannerly to a woman, it is not for his ultimate goal to get her naked, but to just be kind. And, if he is kind, he does stand a better chance to get her naked. 
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I thought that to "treat each other with basic levels of humanity: respect, kindness, compassion, courtesy, and generosity" WAS the real chivalry. I see examples of chivalrous men (using this definition) many places and extending towards all, not just the object of their sexual desire. Yes, there's disingenuous chivalry, designed solely to attract, but the true sense of taking care of others regardless of attraction IS still alive! Is chivalry ascribed to women or is it our default? 
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Men simply do not want to give up this notion. They're worse than those NRA types who are screaming "You'll have to wrestle it out of my cold dead hands." They claim "That's the way I was raised" because it sounds good. After all, not only are you being noble, but you can virtue signal that you had a good upbringing as well. Win-Win! My problem with it is that most forms of chivalry are attention seeking behaviors. They do these things to be seen and noticed, not because it is serving a lofty purpose. It is peacocking Holding a door for me is polite. But making a show of holding the door for me while I'm still halfway down the street is grandstanding, not chivalry. Similarly, doors should be held for everyone, men or women. It's just polite. Only people who don't respect women need an artificially contrived and antiquated set of rules. Men who truly respect women (and other human beings) don't need a code of behaviors. They'll do it naturally.
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I reading that your basic point is, that being chivalrous is just a ploy to get laid. Is that the shortened version of it? If so, you're may very well be correct in so far as its origins. But Just as most of us probably don't call it chivalry anymore, (I believe) like many other things, it has evolved. We now call it "being polite" and stripped it of it's ulterior motives, though surely it DOES play a part in gaining a lady's trust, which is vital to any sexual encounters. WELL, Welcum to You TOO Lights, On HNW 10 Great Christmas Light Displays [post 3312759] My Private Blog - Tell Me ALL Your Secrets
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x 2 on the "well said"  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
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they're more actual guidelines than rules Well Captain Jack . . . As several people have already said it doesn't need to be killed and . . . it probably needs to be taught. That would also include being taught they reason(s) why a person is being chivalrous. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
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The sort of 'chivalry' you describe, as a means to pick up women, yes, I agree, kill it. However, the sort of chivalry I practice, and would steadfastly defend involves, variously: - holding the door open for an older gentleman or woman, in the same way you would for anyone. - stopping to chat to the street person you just gave a hot cup of soup to, in the same way as you would stop to chat to the sales girl in a top end jewellery shop. - paying for dinner for friends because it's your treat and you can, as you would pay for dinner for a date, because you can and it's a nice thing to do. - getting groceries for the wee lady up the road while you're doing your own shopping, because she can't carry the heavy bags, in the same way you would carry a heavy bag for a girl, anyone. For me, good manners, respect and kindness are all chivalrous, so that kind of chivalry, let it live, forever please.
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I LIKE men holding the door open for me 
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I don't get your want to eliminate the word 'chivalry', all it does is describe a set of standards/actions. Far as Christianity or Atheism is concerned, while it may have originated under some Christian times the acts themselves are of no religious content. Anyone, regardless of religion (or lack of) can be chivalrous. And the same people can be not chivalrous. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
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Definition of “chivalry” – Cambridge English Dictionary very polite behavior, esp. such behavior shown by men toward women OK, you obsess over an old word and I’ll excogigate to include it as often as possible in my twattling responses – even if you threaten to pizzle me. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.
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This idea you describe is about people treating people, it sees the heart of the person, not the exterior shell of the person. Which in my opinion, is how it SHOULD be, unfortunately not how it is. There will always be those who feel they are SELF ENTITLED, I just do not wish to associate with them.
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yup -- I'm definitely more a fan of what seemed to be the frontier farming mindset; that is: "we're partners in life, and we've got a lot of work to do, so let's get to work because there's no time to waste squabbling when the environment can and will kill us" ..or to put it differently (and as how I've mentioned to a coworker): it seems like a spouse should be like a battle buddy, in that they should be someone you'd be willing to spend a lifetime sharing a foxhole with through both the utterly boring times, as well as the intense periods of shear insanity ...which means there has to be trust and respect both ways -- though from what I've seen it seems to becoming rarer to see that sincerely happen from one side much less both .... as it seems the norm has almost become that a spouse/partner/lover is the person you try to fight/argue and overcome rather rather than live with and share common goals....
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We're knights of the round table We dance when ever we're able We do routines and chorus scenes With footwork inpecc-able
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Chivalrous behavior is almost always doled out to the elite and beautiful, and almost always with attempts to curry favor with beautiful fair maidens deserving of such. I believe this is your opinion and I respectfully disagree. many men today don't follow it...unless it benefits them. Again your opinion, I disagree. Instead, how about men AND women treat each other with basic levels of humanity: respect, kindness, compassion, courtesy, and generosity. Further, treat each other this way regardless of status, age, infirmity, appearance, etc. Some already do this. If everyone did it the world would be a better place. Probably more boring but better. Now, who would think about killing that?     
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I once dated a man who embodied chivalrous behavior; not as an act, but just how he was. It was jarring sometimes - it's confusing as hell to sit in the car, wondering what to do with yourself, while your fella trots around to open the door for you. Yet he was generous and open towards everyone; he'd do things like thank disabled veterans for their service. Meanwhile, where I come from is very egalitarian: everyone is expected to hold the door for everyone, it's common to split the tab, etc. My husband is willing to help out with anything I ask him to do. We're collaborators, but even if we put in equal effort day-to-day, the "emotional labor" falls on me: all of the finances, most of the planning, doctor's visits for the kids, etc. As "equals", it's on us both (often me) to decide where to eat, etc. Neither of us gets the final word on what happens, but it's on me to decide what needs to happen. Thus it's not always rewarding, but it's very exhausting. And I was also dating this chivalrous guy, and it was SO! AMAZING! to not have to fret about dinner plans. He'd order my wine, and I was fine with it. He made things happen, and it was truly a respite to keep time with him. I don't know that I'd outright trade one for the other, but I do know that chivalry has a lot of benefits that I didn't know I was missing in the name of equality, and comes with a grace that neither my husband nor I possess.
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like she said. You cannot conceive the many without the one.
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